That is why it was an achievement for Delta to make Zeromage to change his list and put Superman in #2
Superman in #2 and Zeromage actually saying that a debate can be made for the top 3 spots it was achieved because Delta shown Zero than Superman needed to be higher than #3.
Ok now onto my favorite past time raping Rick
OK Rick you are always saying that warriors madness is the shit and that Superman cannot do shit about wariors madness?
Oh my god. I starting to laugh even before I post the scan
Fury you are going to love this
Hulk #440
Thor in warriors madness is stalemate and even overcome by HULK/MAESTRO.
In the end the fight ends in a “draw”, Hulk was not even at full rage and was even able to think (remember when someone is at blind rage, they don’t think) So Hulk was able to think and actually was trying to save Thor.
Also Maestro isn’t dead anymore, he was in spirit form and every time Hulk returned to “ground zero” would feed off of his radiation to restore himself, he then came back to life and eventually was fully restored.
So in other words, Hulk is so amazingly bad ass, and is the closest thing to immortal there is in the first place, that if he dies, he’ll just come right back.
Forgive, for it appears as if the link is broken. However, you can view them at the respect thread in the link I’m providing.
It breaks down essentially anything you need to know about Thor’s power.
Ahhhh respect threads finally some real evidence and not baselles claims.
Unfortunatelly there is nothing there that shows that Thor is almost as strong or as durable as Superman
The neutron star will be the most significant improvement unfortunatelly a typical neutron star has a mass between 1.35 and about 2.1 solar masses
a black hole forms only after 5 solar mases
Superma’s SINGLE OR DOUBLE BLACK HOLE feat is still greater than this
I wasn’t trying to prove Thor was stronger ( or nearly as strong ). Your comment on maestro vs Thor made it seem as if Thor in warrior’s madness losing or stalemating maestro was pathetic. My comment including the entire fight hasn’t been posted yet, but the links were broken, so I posted the respect thread. However, in the beginning of the fight, Thor did not start out in the crazies. And about mid-way through the fight, both them stated, ” I’ll kill you”. You can literally see the rage in naestro’s eyes. They’d been going at for about an hour or so. Besides, maestro is a more powerful incarnation of hulk. There fight should be in there under the fights section.
Feat wise I believe Superman is the superior in the strength department. However, both superman and Thor, in my opinion, both hold the potential for limitless strength with superman having the much greater potential for it.
Desperado: We were more or less poking fun with the whole Hulk Thor thing. But as Alberto showed in his analysis That was the fight where they were truly at full power, and Maestro had the advantage/won.
Now I also think that Thor has this possible potential, I have never heard of anyone saying he has an upper strength limit, same with superman, But has has been said to not have one, that his is ever expanding.
Now in terms of feats, Superman is undoubtably stronger, Thor has done nothing near that of Superman, same as with Hulk(Although I’m positive he is stronger than either of them, and anyone else due to supplied information).
Its simply a matter of evidence, and while Thor may possibly be able to achieve things, there is no evidence to back it up.
It’s no problem. I understand how frustrating it can be.
You know how I would have liked the fight of superman and Thor to go? An entire comic dedicated to the entire fight. The fight would go on for months, a day and night endurance contest with no clear end in sight. Eventually, the fight would culminate into one last punch, and it would end sort of like how doomsday and superman went down. Not them dying, just passing out from severe exhaustion with superman losing conciousness second. Superman really seems like the one who should cone out on top. But I seriously hate when fights between near equals end in a matter of seconds. They don’t feel as fulfilling as they could be.
I agree with a whole issue of Superman vs Thor and another of Superman vs Mindless Full rage Hulk.
Or mindless full rage Hulk vs Thor
Or one with Superman fighting against Thor for months and just at the end of the fight when they are about to pass out Hulk arrives and defeats funny men in red capes
I do believe Hulk can put a good fight on martian manhunter, but I don’t know is He will win.
Well actually I do believe He will win. Mostly at this power levels of fights there is always fire involved someplace arround this could be really bad for MMH and good for Hulk.
@Furyof5
That’s the thing about potential. Everything holds potential until it has a limit. Thor currently only potentially limitless strength, seeing that he doesn’t have a cap yet. When he fails to lift the unliftable, and he’s gone as far as he can go, then it results in him losing the potential. The same goes for superman and hulk, with the potential for them having limitless srenght greater. Potential is difficult to backup with evidence because unless you become the omni’s, you’re probably going to die before full potential can be realized.
Besides, hulk is the only one with actual limitless strength. He beat both the presence and the-one-above-all in a double arm wrestling contest resulting in the creation of marvel and dc!
That is actually a really good point now that you mention it WWH was not mindless rage He was still in control, but We can discuss that later I have to sleep
I probably would make Hulk number 1 if his strenght/durability didn’t vary so much. Hulk is kind the like Dr Strange in right situation there is no denying they could beat all people on this list but because they powers vary so much depending on the sitaution in Hulk’s case his strenght level in Dr. Strange’s case how prepare he is. I could see the Hulk somewhere between 3-7 on this list because of the varition in his power. I said this before I believe Hulk belongs on this list.
The list is a work in progress, and I’m guess I’ll have a final version of it up at the end of March. The final version will look something like this:
1. Thor
2. Superman or Silver Surfer (not a 100% decided on this yet)
3. See above
4. Sentry
5. Captain Marvel
6. Black Bolt
7. The Martian Manhunter
8. The Flash
9. Dr. Strange
10. Green Lantern
The Hulk was removed mainly due to the fact that the Hulk needs to “hulk up” before he can even become a threat to most of these heroes, and none of them would give him any time to do so, if they were fighting intelligently. The order is not finalized yet, and most of the new list isn’t written, because I haven’t had a lot of time. But I’m shooting for the end of March. We’ve all been really busy here at OW, I’m engaged and Sage is going for a PhD, so we haven’t had much time for the site. Although we do have 10 articles waiting to be published. Among them:
Top 10 Worst Flags
Top 10 Quarterbacks
Top 10 Worst Football Fans
Top 10 Overrated Guitarists
Top 10 2 Player Games
Top 10 Reasons Sweden is the Best Country in Europe
And a bunch of video game reviews.
We’ll be releasing one every 2 weeks.
For now go check out the new list we just put up a couple of days ago. Alright, that’s it. I’ve gotta get back to work.
I don’t have much time so I’ll just give this message to Darryl.
You are a fucking idiot. Seriously. You don’t know a damn thing about comics, or much of anything. You honestly think that just because I haven’t convinced Zeromage, that I’m wrong? Common sense dictates that your argument works both ways. Meaning I’m right since Zeromage hasn’t convinced me.
Let me use this as an example. I had a friend who argued that Spider-Man would beat Superman, despite no real arguments. No matter how many facts and examples I brought against him, I could not convince him other-wise. Does that mean I’m wrong? Obviously Zeromage is a lot more competent and knowledgeable than him, as well as less biased. But the example still stands. So answer me honestly, Darryl, am I right or wrong on Superman VS Spider-Man since I wasn’t able to change his mind?
When it comes down to it Darryl, you’re nothing but a troll. And the sad thing, for you, hilarious for the rest of us, I know you’re not intentionally being a troll. You’re just so stupid and ignorant of the subject that you either say stupid shit or cheerlead those you agree with. But you never actually contribute, let alone intelligently contribute.
Really, you SHOULD be banned for stupidity. Your sheer ignorance rivals a Hulk fanboy’s, you don’t know much of anything about comics, you don’t have a lick of common sense, you’re incapable of putting together an argument, and even Alberto has a better grasp of the English language than you do. And English isn’t his primary language.
Oh and I’d challenge you to prove where I’ve been proven wrong on these boards, but then again you wouldn’t know how to begin an argument.
So really, shut the fuck-up you dumbass inbred bitch. I’m not an asshole, just don’t tolerate mental retardation.
I’m not even going to ask for you to put Superman in #1 because knowing how much Thor is your favorite character and How much you don’t know about Superman it will be hard to convince you otherwise.
The only thing I will ask you is to explain and PROVE That Thor is “ALMOST” as strong and as durable as Superman, otherwise you are going to have a hard time selling the idea of Thor being #1
and If you don’t do it and don’t try to explain that little fact that a lot of people see in here, we will know that your decision of putting Thor at #1 is just based on a personal taste rather than in an accurate estimate.
Alberto, the Hulk is unquestionably physically stronger than Dr. Strange, or Black Bolt, or the Flash, yet no one would question them being ahead of the Hulk. So how is it because you say Superman is STRONGER than Thor that Superman HAS TO BE ahead of Thor???? Hulk is stronger than Green Lantern. Yet, no one is dumb enough to say Hulk is more powerful than GL.
BEING STRONGER DOESN’T = BEING MORE POWERFUL. Say that along with me.
You make absolutely no sense. Also, are you telling us all here that you’re not biased towards Superman? Don’t make me laugh.
I totally agree with Emerald Magus comment about being stronger doesn’t equal to being more powerful. And I think there enough information out there to show that Thor is close to being as strong as superman if not stronger when he goes into warrior maddness.
I have said that a lot of times , you are just to dumb to undestand.
I’m only asking to Zeromage to back up his claims of Thor being “almost” as Strong and as Durable as Superman. I’m not even asking for him to put Superman in #1.
Just say the truth!!!
Thor is not “almost” as strong and as durable as Superman, there is no proof of such a thing.
Superman being only stronger than Thor does not make him by default more powerful.
But yes by the HUGE difference in strength BETWEEN THE TWO CHARACTES, plus Superman’s Superspeed and Durability, Surelly makes a difference in the whole equation versus Thor whose only REAL advantage is magic. Yes he might have other advantages, but the same goes for Superman.
I can actually tell you who has the advantage on what, because I actually invested time on reading Thor. Something none of you have ever take the time to do with Superman
Having say that I ask you AGAIN
Is Thor “almost” as strong and as durable as Superman?
Alberto, you can’t even keep track of your own arguments.
I’ll help you:
PROVE That Thor is “ALMOST” as strong and as durable as Superman, otherwise you are going to have a hard time selling the idea of Thor being #1
and If you don’t do it and don’t try to explain that little fact that a lot of people see in here, we will know that your decision of putting Thor at #1 is just based on a personal taste rather than in an accurate estimate.
Its sounds to me like you’re saying if Zeromage can’t prove Thor is as strong as Superman, then Superman deserves to be higher than Thor on the list. Hm. I guess I caught you in another flawed argument. This is too easy.
Lol I didnt think of him slipping in a hidden meaning of approval.
That is why it was an achievement for Delta to make Zeromage to change his list and put Superman in #2
Superman in #2 and Zeromage actually saying that a debate can be made for the top 3 spots it was achieved because Delta shown Zero than Superman needed to be higher than #3.
Ok now onto my favorite past time raping Rick
OK Rick you are always saying that warriors madness is the shit and that Superman cannot do shit about wariors madness?
Oh my god. I starting to laugh even before I post the scan
Fury you are going to love this
Hulk #440
Thor in warriors madness is stalemate and even overcome by HULK/MAESTRO.
In the end the fight ends in a “draw”, Hulk was not even at full rage and was even able to think (remember when someone is at blind rage, they don’t think) So Hulk was able to think and actually was trying to save Thor.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/warriorsmadness.jpg?t=1266810867
Now how come Hulk is not on the list when He was able to match blow by blow the so called warriors madness?
This fight is the only fight fought at full power by both characters and Hulk got the win.
Now if I remember correctly which I am, Maestro was killed by a gamma bomb
What? Maestro gets killed by a Gamma bomb and yet He is able to match blow by blow the warriors madness?
This is just to show that Hulk/Maestro was not at full rage
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Thor/savingthor.jpg?t=1266811975
Yep, HULK MATCHED BLOW BY BLOW THE WARRIOR MADNESS
And He was not even at full rage
@Bob
Oh I forgot I did not vote
Can Superman breath in space?
I SAY NO,
BUT…
Well dumbass Thor does not breathe in space.
SUPERMAN DOES NOT NEED TO BREATHE IN SPACE THE SAME GOES FOR THOR AND HULK
Yep Maestro is the epitome of badass, I mean HE HAS A BEARD!
Tell me Hulk cant beat Thor psh XD
@BOB, RICK AND MAGUS (SPECIALY MAGUS)
BUNCH OF IDIOTS
STAY IN FETAL POSITION AND KEEP SUCKING THAT THUMB
No one breathes in space, theirs no air :p lulz
Furyof5
LOL
Also Maestro isn’t dead anymore, he was in spirit form and every time Hulk returned to “ground zero” would feed off of his radiation to restore himself, he then came back to life and eventually was fully restored.
So in other words, Hulk is so amazingly bad ass, and is the closest thing to immortal there is in the first place, that if he dies, he’ll just come right back.
AND HE HAS A BEARD!
Forgive, for it appears as if the link is broken. However, you can view them at the respect thread in the link I’m providing.
It breaks down essentially anything you need to know about Thor’s power.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t522796.html
I’ve forgotten to mention, it’s under fights along with a handful of many other fights, including Thor vs Hulk fights.
Ahhhh respect threads finally some real evidence and not baselles claims.
Unfortunatelly there is nothing there that shows that Thor is almost as strong or as durable as Superman
The neutron star will be the most significant improvement unfortunatelly a typical neutron star has a mass between 1.35 and about 2.1 solar masses
a black hole forms only after 5 solar mases
Superma’s SINGLE OR DOUBLE BLACK HOLE feat is still greater than this
I wasn’t trying to prove Thor was stronger ( or nearly as strong ). Your comment on maestro vs Thor made it seem as if Thor in warrior’s madness losing or stalemating maestro was pathetic. My comment including the entire fight hasn’t been posted yet, but the links were broken, so I posted the respect thread. However, in the beginning of the fight, Thor did not start out in the crazies. And about mid-way through the fight, both them stated, ” I’ll kill you”. You can literally see the rage in naestro’s eyes. They’d been going at for about an hour or so. Besides, maestro is a more powerful incarnation of hulk. There fight should be in there under the fights section.
Feat wise I believe Superman is the superior in the strength department. However, both superman and Thor, in my opinion, both hold the potential for limitless strength with superman having the much greater potential for it.
@Desperado
Sorry desperado I did not mean to ofend you or any person with real knowledge on comic books.
I do respect Thor, but this guys just behave so much like fanboys that I get a little carried away.
And I do believe Thor is more powerful overall than HULK
Alberto: You did not just go there >.>……..
Desperado: We were more or less poking fun with the whole Hulk Thor thing. But as Alberto showed in his analysis That was the fight where they were truly at full power, and Maestro had the advantage/won.
Now I also think that Thor has this possible potential, I have never heard of anyone saying he has an upper strength limit, same with superman, But has has been said to not have one, that his is ever expanding.
Now in terms of feats, Superman is undoubtably stronger, Thor has done nothing near that of Superman, same as with Hulk(Although I’m positive he is stronger than either of them, and anyone else due to supplied information).
Its simply a matter of evidence, and while Thor may possibly be able to achieve things, there is no evidence to back it up.
Hulk, not has* lol(where it says has has been said to not have one)
Sorry fury
But I do believe the Hulk should be back in the list.
Besides between you and me We know the big blue is nothing but a puny man in red cape
In what place :/ lol
A puny little Capeman!
It’s no problem. I understand how frustrating it can be.
You know how I would have liked the fight of superman and Thor to go? An entire comic dedicated to the entire fight. The fight would go on for months, a day and night endurance contest with no clear end in sight. Eventually, the fight would culminate into one last punch, and it would end sort of like how doomsday and superman went down. Not them dying, just passing out from severe exhaustion with superman losing conciousness second. Superman really seems like the one who should cone out on top. But I seriously hate when fights between near equals end in a matter of seconds. They don’t feel as fulfilling as they could be.
Desperado: That would be pretty awesome
I agree with a whole issue of Superman vs Thor and another of Superman vs Mindless Full rage Hulk.
Or mindless full rage Hulk vs Thor
Or one with Superman fighting against Thor for months and just at the end of the fight when they are about to pass out Hulk arrives and defeats funny men in red capes
d=(^u^)=b Two thumbs up
Yes, that was my plan all along mwahahahahaha
Alberto: What place would Hulk be in? Hmm? lol
Professor X has to go for real
Either put Flash or Hulk
9th place?
Hulk could be just watching the fight on pay per view and drinking a beer with Mr Myxzptlk
Yep, like a real man!
I don’t know is so hard
I do believe Hulk can put a good fight on martian manhunter, but I don’t know is He will win.
Well actually I do believe He will win. Mostly at this power levels of fights there is always fire involved someplace arround this could be really bad for MMH and good for Hulk.
Hulk has stalemate the sentry
Hulk has not defeated the real black bolt yet
I think Hulk can defeat GL
He could be up to number 6 but no more then that
@Furyof5
That’s the thing about potential. Everything holds potential until it has a limit. Thor currently only potentially limitless strength, seeing that he doesn’t have a cap yet. When he fails to lift the unliftable, and he’s gone as far as he can go, then it results in him losing the potential. The same goes for superman and hulk, with the potential for them having limitless srenght greater. Potential is difficult to backup with evidence because unless you become the omni’s, you’re probably going to die before full potential can be realized.
Besides, hulk is the only one with actual limitless strength. He beat both the presence and the-one-above-all in a double arm wrestling contest resulting in the creation of marvel and dc!
Puny creators of all
Ok so is 3 am in Florida I have to go to sleep nice talkilng to you guys
See you later
That is actually a really good point now that you mention it WWH was not mindless rage He was still in control, but We can discuss that later I have to sleep
Clearwater
I vote Superman can’t breath in space
Per DC Superman don’t need to breathe for long periods of time so that other side of that coin.
I probably would make Hulk number 1 if his strenght/durability didn’t vary so much. Hulk is kind the like Dr Strange in right situation there is no denying they could beat all people on this list but because they powers vary so much depending on the sitaution in Hulk’s case his strenght level in Dr. Strange’s case how prepare he is. I could see the Hulk somewhere between 3-7 on this list because of the varition in his power. I said this before I believe Hulk belongs on this list.
Zeromage if your are listening I have a question why was the Hulk totally remove from the list?
The list is a work in progress, and I’m guess I’ll have a final version of it up at the end of March. The final version will look something like this:
1. Thor
2. Superman or Silver Surfer (not a 100% decided on this yet)
3. See above
4. Sentry
5. Captain Marvel
6. Black Bolt
7. The Martian Manhunter
8. The Flash
9. Dr. Strange
10. Green Lantern
The Hulk was removed mainly due to the fact that the Hulk needs to “hulk up” before he can even become a threat to most of these heroes, and none of them would give him any time to do so, if they were fighting intelligently. The order is not finalized yet, and most of the new list isn’t written, because I haven’t had a lot of time. But I’m shooting for the end of March. We’ve all been really busy here at OW, I’m engaged and Sage is going for a PhD, so we haven’t had much time for the site. Although we do have 10 articles waiting to be published. Among them:
Top 10 Worst Flags
Top 10 Quarterbacks
Top 10 Worst Football Fans
Top 10 Overrated Guitarists
Top 10 2 Player Games
Top 10 Reasons Sweden is the Best Country in Europe
And a bunch of video game reviews.
We’ll be releasing one every 2 weeks.
For now go check out the new list we just put up a couple of days ago. Alright, that’s it. I’ve gotta get back to work.
I don’t have much time so I’ll just give this message to Darryl.
You are a fucking idiot. Seriously. You don’t know a damn thing about comics, or much of anything. You honestly think that just because I haven’t convinced Zeromage, that I’m wrong? Common sense dictates that your argument works both ways. Meaning I’m right since Zeromage hasn’t convinced me.
Let me use this as an example. I had a friend who argued that Spider-Man would beat Superman, despite no real arguments. No matter how many facts and examples I brought against him, I could not convince him other-wise. Does that mean I’m wrong? Obviously Zeromage is a lot more competent and knowledgeable than him, as well as less biased. But the example still stands. So answer me honestly, Darryl, am I right or wrong on Superman VS Spider-Man since I wasn’t able to change his mind?
When it comes down to it Darryl, you’re nothing but a troll. And the sad thing, for you, hilarious for the rest of us, I know you’re not intentionally being a troll. You’re just so stupid and ignorant of the subject that you either say stupid shit or cheerlead those you agree with. But you never actually contribute, let alone intelligently contribute.
Really, you SHOULD be banned for stupidity. Your sheer ignorance rivals a Hulk fanboy’s, you don’t know much of anything about comics, you don’t have a lick of common sense, you’re incapable of putting together an argument, and even Alberto has a better grasp of the English language than you do. And English isn’t his primary language.
Oh and I’d challenge you to prove where I’ve been proven wrong on these boards, but then again you wouldn’t know how to begin an argument.
So really, shut the fuck-up you dumbass inbred bitch. I’m not an asshole, just don’t tolerate mental retardation.
Hey Zeromage thank you for the reply.
Alway good to hear from you.
@Zeromage
I’m not even going to ask for you to put Superman in #1 because knowing how much Thor is your favorite character and How much you don’t know about Superman it will be hard to convince you otherwise.
The only thing I will ask you is to explain and PROVE That Thor is “ALMOST” as strong and as durable as Superman, otherwise you are going to have a hard time selling the idea of Thor being #1
and If you don’t do it and don’t try to explain that little fact that a lot of people see in here, we will know that your decision of putting Thor at #1 is just based on a personal taste rather than in an accurate estimate.
Alberto, the Hulk is unquestionably physically stronger than Dr. Strange, or Black Bolt, or the Flash, yet no one would question them being ahead of the Hulk. So how is it because you say Superman is STRONGER than Thor that Superman HAS TO BE ahead of Thor???? Hulk is stronger than Green Lantern. Yet, no one is dumb enough to say Hulk is more powerful than GL.
BEING STRONGER DOESN’T = BEING MORE POWERFUL. Say that along with me.
You make absolutely no sense. Also, are you telling us all here that you’re not biased towards Superman? Don’t make me laugh.
Hey Delta your mom is the inbred. Your arguments don’t hold water any more.
If could read English your know I’m not going waste my time responsing to you.
@Darryl
Yes Superman, Hulk and Thor don’t “breathe” in space
You can’t breath in space because there is no oxygen.
They do not NEED to breath in space which is different
I totally agree with Emerald Magus comment about being stronger doesn’t equal to being more powerful. And I think there enough information out there to show that Thor is close to being as strong as superman if not stronger when he goes into warrior maddness.
@Emerald Magus
Haven’t I made you look bad long enough?
BEING STRONGER DOESN’T = BEING MORE POWERFUL
I have said that a lot of times , you are just to dumb to undestand.
I’m only asking to Zeromage to back up his claims of Thor being “almost” as Strong and as Durable as Superman. I’m not even asking for him to put Superman in #1.
Just say the truth!!!
Thor is not “almost” as strong and as durable as Superman, there is no proof of such a thing.
Superman being only stronger than Thor does not make him by default more powerful.
But yes by the HUGE difference in strength BETWEEN THE TWO CHARACTES, plus Superman’s Superspeed and Durability, Surelly makes a difference in the whole equation versus Thor whose only REAL advantage is magic. Yes he might have other advantages, but the same goes for Superman.
I can actually tell you who has the advantage on what, because I actually invested time on reading Thor. Something none of you have ever take the time to do with Superman
Having say that I ask you AGAIN
Is Thor “almost” as strong and as durable as Superman?
If you say yes please proveide evidence.
Alberto, you can’t even keep track of your own arguments.
I’ll help you:
PROVE That Thor is “ALMOST” as strong and as durable as Superman, otherwise you are going to have a hard time selling the idea of Thor being #1
and If you don’t do it and don’t try to explain that little fact that a lot of people see in here, we will know that your decision of putting Thor at #1 is just based on a personal taste rather than in an accurate estimate.
Its sounds to me like you’re saying if Zeromage can’t prove Thor is as strong as Superman, then Superman deserves to be higher than Thor on the list. Hm. I guess I caught you in another flawed argument. This is too easy.