Alberto : I’ve seen some feats about Modern Superman. People keep saying that he’s not Immortal but I’ve seena scan where Superman beats the Death itself. If he’s able to do that, I don’t think he can actually die. I would even say that Superman is Immortal. Even if he was killed in The Blackest Night, we pretty much all know he’s going to come back lol!
Sorry I did not answer your comment before, I just saw it, maybe is becasue it was your first posting it took some time, anyhow.
“Do you think that the Beyonder can take out Anti-Monitor?”
Not really, let me explain you why I think Beyonder cannot defeat Anti-monitor
If it was Pre-retcom beyonder, the Beyonder had a chance. I said a chance, meaning that It could be possible for the Pre-retcon Beyonder to defeat Anti-monitor even at his peak (You know anti-matter + 1000 universes) So, if this was the case I will say MAYBE
Since the Beyonder was retcon and now he is part of a “race” and He is not even as powerful as Galactus or a Celestial, The Beyonder does not have a chance against Anti-Monitor.
Now it you are talking about post crisis Anti-monitor vs retcon Beyonder. I still choose Anti-Monitor. Anti-Monitor Survived being attacked by several Guardians of the universe, While new Guardians are not as powerful as Ganthet, They are pretty powerful, So I pick Anti-monitor.
Too bad because I really liked the Beyonder, but with the retcon, they destroyed the character
1) Thor – Undisputedly the most powerful superhero of all time. I’m glad the author of this list agrees with me on that fact.
2) The Silver Surfer – A close second.
3) Sentry – He has handled other heralds of Galactus like they were rag dolls. He even stalemated the big G, according to Spiderman anyway.
4) The Green Lantern – Hal Jordan. If his ring didn’t need to constantly recharge he’d be closer to #2.
5) Martian Manhunter – The Swiss army knife of superheroes. This guy can do it all. Almost.
6) Captain Marvel – He’s ahead of Superman because of his magical ability. Plus we all saw that Superman was only able to beat him by tricking him in KC.
7) Black Bolt – His voice shattered all the bones of the Hulk Superman – He’s got a lot of weakness, and not many powers beyond super strength. I included him more for his iconic status than his sheer power.
9) The Flash – I’d say he could probably take Superman on certain days. Needless to say 8 and 9 are really close, and more of a tie than anything else.
Woody : By putting 3 Marvel characters in the Top 3, you pretty much showed us who your favourite heroes are. Modern Superman can take out Thor, Sentry, Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Black Bolt, Green Lantern and maybe Silver Surfer….
Hm…funny I count 6 DC characters on my list and 4 Marvel. Or are you just crying because Superman isn’t number 1? My advice is to grow up and read some comics that feature heroes other than Superman. Thor, Surfer and Sentry are indisputably more powerful than Superman. And if we’re counting “clones” beta ray bill, and other heralds of Galactus would absolutely curb stomp Superman. And by the way, you only show your pure ignorance of comic books by even suggesting Superman would stand any chance against the Silver Surfer. The Surfer would simply absorb Supes’ solar energy and pimpslap him like a little bitch. End of fight.
You know what’s funny? Shadowhunter always makes a big deal about how Superman keeps getting more and more powerful (by the issue). He downplays every time Superman gets defeated, and then he brings up the Surfer getting knocked down (not his ass kicked) by the Thing 10 years ago as his prime example of how “weak” the Silver Surfer is.
Let’s not forget Superman getting his ass beat by Venom. Or Metallo (how many times?) or failing to lift up a pyramid. Or BARELY lifting the Daily Planet globe. If you’re gonna bring up the Thing knocking down the Surfer over a decade ago, then all that stuff is fair game as well.
This is what Wizard Magazine, the biggest comic book magazine in the world said about Superman vs Silver Surfer:
“While Supes might land a couple of blows as the Surfer is trying to talk to him, our bald buddy Norrin could either hammer Supes into submission with the power cosmic or suck all the solar energy out of him with his energy manipulation powers. “
Was the fight against Venom canon? I don’t think so. I’ve never used crossovers because most of them aren’t canon. You should do the same. Metallo? Superman always managed to beat him. By the way, I said MAYBE when I was talking about the fight of Superman against Silver Surfer. You should read. Silver Surfer could drain all of his energy…did Silver Surfer already managed to do that to him? I don’t think so. It’s just an argument without proofs. Lifting up a pyramid? Yeah, they had to lower his powers because people weren’t reading the comics since he was too powerfull. But, I’ve never seen Silver Surfer moving Mageddon.
Why do people think that Superman can beat everyone!? Silver Surfer would crush Superman at any power level! Pre-Crisis or Post! Superman is NOTHING without sunlight! Surfer could absorb his solar energy. HE COULD ABSORB THE SUN. Without solar energy, Superman would get the tar beat out of him. GET OVER IT SUPERMAN FANBOYS. SUPERMAN IS GOING DOWN!
“But, I’ve never seen Silver Surfer moving Mageddon.”
Could that be because the Silver Surfer is a Marvel character and Mageddon is from DC?
How is Silver Surfer’s ability to energy drain someone an argument without proofs? Did you ever read the comic where he drained all the Hulk’s gamma radiation out of him and made him into a normal person? Of course not, because it didn’t happen in a Superman comic, and those are all you read.
Also, have you actually ever read any comics where Metallo fought Superman? Most of the time someone else has to save his ass. He doesn’t “beat” Metallo usually.
The more Stress Superman is in the more he retains Solar energy. To the point of being drained completely by Ruin and regain his powers back in a second.
Second one thing is RAW SPEED and another completelly different is COMBAT SPEED
WHO IS FASTER FIGHTING USAIN BOLT OR BRUCE LEE?
EXACTLY, SURFER HAS RAW SPEED on his advantage not combat speed.
Third Emerald, Shadow was refering as to the silver surfer moving something as big a Mageddon, not mageddon itself.
SS is not stronger than Superman, He is faster , has a better energy manipulation than Superman and probably is more durable than Superman, But Superman is Stronger way stronger, a way better fighter, a way faster in combat and smarter.
I said this before and I say it again, If it weren’t because Stan Lee stablished SS as weaker than Thor. I will say SS is the most powerful, but He is not.
So superman is also able to absorb energy, in fact that is what He does the WHOLE DAY, how extremelly good He process energy, that even it causes him preoblems (Kryptonite) He was able to absorb a 1/2 solar system buster with out any problems.
Ans yes sometimes they are defeated by “lesser” beings, but that is only due to create a story.
Wizard Magazine has always being Marvel bias.
Thanks for the article Wizard magazine, but We want facts. Yes the Surfer has way better showings than Superman but the fact is that SS is less powerful than Thor, Since according to facts Superman seem a tiny bit more powerful than Thor it means That Superman should be considered more powerful. It also means that not because one is more powerful than the other, the most powerful is always going to win.
and good luck on trying to drain Superman in Space.
STARLIGHT = SUNLIGHT
Ralph : Are you crazy? Pre-Crisis Superman was able to freaking move the Earth with his breath. Pre-Crisis Superman can take out the whole list at the same time with one hand. Surfer is going down. By the way, I would even be tempted to put Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman above him.
President Steve : People always think that Wonder Woman is weak and that she’s only a crappy copy of Superman. You should get some information on her first.
Explain how she can beat the Surfer. She’s not a copy of Superman. For one, a bullet can kill her. If there were 20 Wonder Womans, they couldn’t beat the Surfer all at once.
You’re not giving me a reason she should be higher than the Surfer on the list. Is it because she once had the weapons of the gods? Is that why she is more powerful than the Surfer? You know the Surfer regularly defeats gods.
You don’t understand yet, do you Steve? Shadowhunter and Alberto will say that any DC character will defeat any Marvel character. Wonder Woman being more powerful than the Silver Surfer is only the latest of their insanely biased claims.
Emerald : Did I ever said she was more powerfull? Way to go chief. I said that the could be above him since Silver Surfer comics are showing him weak and strong all at once. Wonder Woman tiara is able to cut Superman. She’s all about weapons.
Full OF THOR is more powerful than Modern Superman, HAPPY?
There are two things that I can see here, one is being a fanboy, which I’m clearly showing I’m not, neither is Shadow, Because We accept and know There are more powerful beings than Superman.
and another one is to being a Superman hater, which, I can sadly say, there is plenty of them on the web, like yourself.
I accept that OF Thor is more powerful than Superman. So what? Big deal.
I wouln’t go as far as saying that WW is more powerful than SS, But clearly Shadow is speaking of what He has seen on the recent comic books, in which Wonder woman is portrayed as a REALLY POWERFUL Warrior Princess (by McDuffie).
But what I can tell you, is that WW is a better figther than Thor. Is that being bias? Stating the obvious? She is a better fighter, Thor is more powerful, but WW is a better fighter.
And just to make things clear.
NO I DON’T THINK THAT ANY DC CHARACTER WILL DEFEAT ANY MARVEL CHARACTER.
SS will defeat GL
Captain America can defeat Batman
Hulk can defeat Solomon Grundy
Magneto can defeat Polaris
The X-men will mop the floor with the Teen Titans
Spiderman defeats Booster Gold
First off, Capatain America will not defeat The Batman. Say what you will about “Super Soldier Serum” or whatever it simply will not happen. The reason why? The Batman is PSYCHOTIC. The Batman is the deadliest fighter in comicdom because of his mind. Batman’s training is so intense he can adapt to any fighter’s style and counter that style without thinking. I don’t recall ever reading about Captain America travelling the world learning the Martial Arts, or did I miss something. Batman will DO ANYTHING TO WIN, plain and simple.
Silver Surfer vs Superman: The Surfer’s Power Cosmic will drive out the yellow sun radiation from Superman’s body and infuse it with the red sun radiation to the point of Superman’s helplessness and the fight’s over. Good thing Surfer doesn’t like to kill. The Surfer’s been through the hearts of burning suns so Superman’s heat vision isn’t going to be a factor. As strong as Superman is, he isn’t strong enough to crack the Surfer’s “skin”, Galactus does good work…. And as for “combat speed”, wasn’t the Surfer fast enough to run rings around meteor showers, at close range?
The Green Lantern wields the most powerful weapon? Are you kidding? I’d take Mjolnir any day! Am I the only one who remembers the inscription on the hammer in the first place? “….shall possess the POWER of Thor.” The power of Thor does include the physical ability to wield Mjolnir, GL’s ring doesn’t make you stronger. The pressure of an F5 tornado or an intense ice storm will weaken even the strongest of wills and once that happens….
And for all you misled individuals who believe “Hulk Is The Strongest One There Is!” Look through your Marvel Team Up archives and find issue No. 53. While fighting the WoodGod, the Hulk lifts a truck which comes into contact with a live wire and the electricity knocks the Hulk out. So how does the Hulk withstand a bolt of lightning from Thor’s hammer? Were the Human Torch to focus his Nova blast into the Hulk’s eyes, would that fry his brain? What if the Iceman froze the Hulk’s blood in his veins? By the time the Hulk works up the rage to match Superman’s strength level, he’d suffer an anyourism,
The Sentry possesses the power of a billion suns?
SHADOWHUNTER: Pre-Crisis Superman can take out the whole list at the same time with one hand. Surfer is going down. By the way, I would even be tempted to put Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman above him.
Now if Shadowhunter says WW should be ABOVE HIM, that means he thinks she is more powerful than him, considering this is the top 10 most powerful superheroes list.
Also, explain to me how PC Superman beats all ten of these heroes at once. Are you absolutely insane? Have you ever read a PC Superman comic, or do you just think he’s GOD because every other superman fanboy tells you he is?
SHADOWHUNTER: Emerald : Did I ever said she was more powerfull? Way to go chief.
Yes, you did. Try to keep track of your statements.
PC Superman was able to move all the planets on a galaxy casually, he moved suns with his breath, he destroyed a Solar systems with a sneze, He traveled to the end of the universe and was about to destroy reality because of it, he retcon realitites just by thinking it and He pulled powers out of his ass whenever the plot dictated, yes PC Superman will defeat all of this heroes at the same time on their modern versions, not on their silver age versions (at the same time), but all of the modern version.
and the statement I made about Cap vs Bats let me rephrase that I think Cap COULD defeat Batman, the same goes the other way arround.
The same way I think SS could defeat Superman, the same way goes the other arround
and Thor could defeat Superman, the same goes the other way arround.
Some people on the other hand, since they know squat about Superman or because they hate Superman they just say SS EASILY WINS
“Silver Surfer vs Superman: The Surfer’s Power Cosmic will drive out the yellow sun radiation from Superman’s body and infuse it with the red sun radiation to the point of Superman’s helplessness and the fight’s over”
Emerald Magus : I never said that Wonder Woman was stronger and more powerfull than PC Superman. You are becoming crazy right now. I said that she could be above the Surfer, depending the weapons she got (yes, during the Immortal Chalenges, War of the Gods, etc.., she had a couple of destructive weapons). Diana once possessed the Sandals of Hermes, or talaria, which granted the wearer great speed and flight. They were passed on, first to Artemis and later to Wonder Girl. Diana also once possessed the Gauntlets of Atlas, which magnify the physical strength and stamina of the wearer. They too were passed on. Diana occasionally uses additional weaponry in formal battle, such as ceremonial golden armor complete with golden wings, war-skirt and chest-plate, and a golden helmet in the shape of an eagle’s head. She also possesses a sword (also forged by Hephaestus) that is sharp enough to cut the electrons off an atom. As a recently temporary inductee into the Star Sapphires, Wonder Woman gained access to the violet power ring of love. This ring allowed her to fly, alter her costume at will, create solid-light energy constructs and also reveal a person’s true love to them.
And nice job changing my sentences. You know I meant Silver Surfer when I said that she could be above him. Try to read carefully next time.
1. The Silver Surfer
2. Thor
3. Superman
4. Captain Marvel
5. The Sentry
6. The Martian Manhunter
7. Black Bolt
8. The Flash
9. Dr. Strange
10. Green Lantern
Zauriel’s scream can’t compare to Blackbolts, Blackbolt destroyed half a city with just the WHISPER of one word. Imagine if blackbolt decided to scream.
Superman doesn’t make my list, for the same reason many others here have said. He CANNOT breath in space. Its a fact. I have at least 12 examples of him saying he can HOLD HIS BREATH for a couple of weeks. He has several weaknesses that characters like SS, GL, and Thor can easily exploit. (make K radiation, or red solar radiation, or even magic in Thor’s case). Now SS is clearly #1, and is probably TOO POWERFUL for this list.
1. Silver Surfer
2. The Green Lantern
3. Captain Atom
4. Thor / Beta Ray Bill
5. Captain Marvel
6. The Sentry
7. Martian Manhunter
8. Wonder Woman
9. Dr. Strange / Dr. Fate
10. Orion / Hulk (Tie)
Hey EJ hate to break it to you but Dark Phoenix is “too” powerful to make the list. They ruled out all “overly powerful” heroes like Odin and whatnot. Which leads me to another point. Since OF THOR now has Odin’s power, shouldnt he be considered too powerful for this list too?…
Oh and Will, to leave superman off the list completely is ridiculous. I’m not a huge fan of the last son of krypton either, but you cant deny he’s hellas powerful
Spurio that why Hulk should be on this list. He has capable beating everyone on this list.
I agree with Emerald Magus about the SS beating Superman. The person I think shouldn’t be on this list is Sentry because marvel still in the stages of playing with his power level. I have feeling he may end up too powerful this list.
Alberto/Shadowhunter both are DC/Superman fans boys. Like Emerald Magus said DC don’t rule over all Marvel heroes. Shadowmage your comment about SS being weak & strong is very conflicting because all heroes have stories line which make them weak just to fit a situation. Like Emerald Magus said you can find same thing if you look at Superman too.
Sorry mention Shadowhunter- Shadowhunter your comment about SS being weak & strong is very conflicting because all heroes have stories line which make them weak just to fit a situation.
Alberto : I’ve seen some feats about Modern Superman. People keep saying that he’s not Immortal but I’ve seena scan where Superman beats the Death itself. If he’s able to do that, I don’t think he can actually die. I would even say that Superman is Immortal. Even if he was killed in The Blackest Night, we pretty much all know he’s going to come back lol!
Well He is and He is not
According to DC universe Superman will outlive everyone on earth.
And I’m sure Superman from earth 2 will return eventually
How much does Yggdrassil weights?
2,165,290,363,122,257,048,624 metric tons
Give or take.
Without counting the branches
Thanks to Shadowhunter
How much % should I add for the branches?
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Thor/yggdrassil.jpg?t=1265396280
@Yvonne Strahovski
Sorry I did not answer your comment before, I just saw it, maybe is becasue it was your first posting it took some time, anyhow.
“Do you think that the Beyonder can take out Anti-Monitor?”
Not really, let me explain you why I think Beyonder cannot defeat Anti-monitor
If it was Pre-retcom beyonder, the Beyonder had a chance. I said a chance, meaning that It could be possible for the Pre-retcon Beyonder to defeat Anti-monitor even at his peak (You know anti-matter + 1000 universes) So, if this was the case I will say MAYBE
Since the Beyonder was retcon and now he is part of a “race” and He is not even as powerful as Galactus or a Celestial, The Beyonder does not have a chance against Anti-Monitor.
Now it you are talking about post crisis Anti-monitor vs retcon Beyonder. I still choose Anti-Monitor. Anti-Monitor Survived being attacked by several Guardians of the universe, While new Guardians are not as powerful as Ganthet, They are pretty powerful, So I pick Anti-monitor.
Too bad because I really liked the Beyonder, but with the retcon, they destroyed the character
1) Thor – Undisputedly the most powerful superhero of all time. I’m glad the author of this list agrees with me on that fact.
2) The Silver Surfer – A close second.
3) Sentry – He has handled other heralds of Galactus like they were rag dolls. He even stalemated the big G, according to Spiderman anyway.
4) The Green Lantern – Hal Jordan. If his ring didn’t need to constantly recharge he’d be closer to #2.
5) Martian Manhunter – The Swiss army knife of superheroes. This guy can do it all. Almost.
6) Captain Marvel – He’s ahead of Superman because of his magical ability. Plus we all saw that Superman was only able to beat him by tricking him in KC.
7) Black Bolt – His voice shattered all the bones of the Hulk
Superman – He’s got a lot of weakness, and not many powers beyond super strength. I included him more for his iconic status than his sheer power.
9) The Flash – I’d say he could probably take Superman on certain days. Needless to say 8 and 9 are really close, and more of a tie than anything else.
10) Wonder Woman
Woody : By putting 3 Marvel characters in the Top 3, you pretty much showed us who your favourite heroes are. Modern Superman can take out Thor, Sentry, Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Black Bolt, Green Lantern and maybe Silver Surfer….
Hm…funny I count 6 DC characters on my list and 4 Marvel. Or are you just crying because Superman isn’t number 1? My advice is to grow up and read some comics that feature heroes other than Superman. Thor, Surfer and Sentry are indisputably more powerful than Superman. And if we’re counting “clones” beta ray bill, and other heralds of Galactus would absolutely curb stomp Superman. And by the way, you only show your pure ignorance of comic books by even suggesting Superman would stand any chance against the Silver Surfer. The Surfer would simply absorb Supes’ solar energy and pimpslap him like a little bitch. End of fight.
Woody : Silver Surfer has prooved to be strong and weak. He got his ass kicked by the Thing…how powerfull is that?
You know what’s funny? Shadowhunter always makes a big deal about how Superman keeps getting more and more powerful (by the issue). He downplays every time Superman gets defeated, and then he brings up the Surfer getting knocked down (not his ass kicked) by the Thing 10 years ago as his prime example of how “weak” the Silver Surfer is.
Let’s not forget Superman getting his ass beat by Venom. Or Metallo (how many times?) or failing to lift up a pyramid. Or BARELY lifting the Daily Planet globe. If you’re gonna bring up the Thing knocking down the Surfer over a decade ago, then all that stuff is fair game as well.
Surfer can beat Superman in so many different way it´s almost not funny, but just almost.
This is what Wizard Magazine, the biggest comic book magazine in the world said about Superman vs Silver Surfer:
“While Supes might land a couple of blows as the Surfer is trying to talk to him, our bald buddy Norrin could either hammer Supes into submission with the power cosmic or suck all the solar energy out of him with his energy manipulation powers. “
Was the fight against Venom canon? I don’t think so. I’ve never used crossovers because most of them aren’t canon. You should do the same. Metallo? Superman always managed to beat him. By the way, I said MAYBE when I was talking about the fight of Superman against Silver Surfer. You should read. Silver Surfer could drain all of his energy…did Silver Surfer already managed to do that to him? I don’t think so. It’s just an argument without proofs. Lifting up a pyramid? Yeah, they had to lower his powers because people weren’t reading the comics since he was too powerfull. But, I’ve never seen Silver Surfer moving Mageddon.
Magus: agreed. Superman is a solar battery ready to be sucked dry by Surfer. Additionally, the herald can augment his strength with the power cosmic.
Why do people think that Superman can beat everyone!? Silver Surfer would crush Superman at any power level! Pre-Crisis or Post! Superman is NOTHING without sunlight! Surfer could absorb his solar energy. HE COULD ABSORB THE SUN. Without solar energy, Superman would get the tar beat out of him. GET OVER IT SUPERMAN FANBOYS. SUPERMAN IS GOING DOWN!
“But, I’ve never seen Silver Surfer moving Mageddon.”
Could that be because the Silver Surfer is a Marvel character and Mageddon is from DC?
How is Silver Surfer’s ability to energy drain someone an argument without proofs? Did you ever read the comic where he drained all the Hulk’s gamma radiation out of him and made him into a normal person? Of course not, because it didn’t happen in a Superman comic, and those are all you read.
Surfer manipulates energy like telekinesis. He can take Superman’s solar energy, making him weaker than Lois Lane.
“Metallo? Superman always managed to beat him.”
Also, have you actually ever read any comics where Metallo fought Superman? Most of the time someone else has to save his ass. He doesn’t “beat” Metallo usually.
The Silver Surfer cannot be physically harmed. Superman has no offense that can stop SS, SS is faster, and stronger, and more powerful.
This is what they call being “outclassed”. I mean, all SS has to do is transmute someting into kryptonite and Supes is done. Gone. History.
I mean, super breath, heat vision, or super strength (where SS is probably stronger anyway) just don’t cut it here…
Does anyone know if Surfer can move faster than the speed of light in combat situations? If he can then I’d say he takes this fight.
@Xvalkar:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/silversurfer.jpg
I’m gonna say if Parasite can drain Superman’s powers…then so can the Silver Surfer.
Great example, The parasite, which MAIN ABILITY IS TO DRAIN. and EVEN there Superman wins.
Now I am not saying that Surfer could not drain Superman but…
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/solarenergy.jpg?t=1265499852
The more Stress Superman is in the more he retains Solar energy. To the point of being drained completely by Ruin and regain his powers back in a second.
Second one thing is RAW SPEED and another completelly different is COMBAT SPEED
WHO IS FASTER FIGHTING USAIN BOLT OR BRUCE LEE?
EXACTLY, SURFER HAS RAW SPEED on his advantage not combat speed.
Third Emerald, Shadow was refering as to the silver surfer moving something as big a Mageddon, not mageddon itself.
SS is not stronger than Superman, He is faster , has a better energy manipulation than Superman and probably is more durable than Superman, But Superman is Stronger way stronger, a way better fighter, a way faster in combat and smarter.
I said this before and I say it again, If it weren’t because Stan Lee stablished SS as weaker than Thor. I will say SS is the most powerful, but He is not.
So superman is also able to absorb energy, in fact that is what He does the WHOLE DAY, how extremelly good He process energy, that even it causes him preoblems (Kryptonite) He was able to absorb a 1/2 solar system buster with out any problems.
Ans yes sometimes they are defeated by “lesser” beings, but that is only due to create a story.
Wizard Magazine has always being Marvel bias.
Thanks for the article Wizard magazine, but We want facts. Yes the Surfer has way better showings than Superman but the fact is that SS is less powerful than Thor, Since according to facts Superman seem a tiny bit more powerful than Thor it means That Superman should be considered more powerful. It also means that not because one is more powerful than the other, the most powerful is always going to win.
and good luck on trying to drain Superman in Space.
STARLIGHT = SUNLIGHT
So there
Ralph : Are you crazy? Pre-Crisis Superman was able to freaking move the Earth with his breath. Pre-Crisis Superman can take out the whole list at the same time with one hand. Surfer is going down. By the way, I would even be tempted to put Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman above him.
Wonder Woman ahead of Surfer? Wow.
President Steve : People always think that Wonder Woman is weak and that she’s only a crappy copy of Superman. You should get some information on her first.
Explain how she can beat the Surfer. She’s not a copy of Superman. For one, a bullet can kill her. If there were 20 Wonder Womans, they couldn’t beat the Surfer all at once.
President Steve : You know how strong she was when he had the weapons of the Gods?
You’re not giving me a reason she should be higher than the Surfer on the list. Is it because she once had the weapons of the gods? Is that why she is more powerful than the Surfer? You know the Surfer regularly defeats gods.
You don’t understand yet, do you Steve? Shadowhunter and Alberto will say that any DC character will defeat any Marvel character. Wonder Woman being more powerful than the Silver Surfer is only the latest of their insanely biased claims.
Emerald : Did I ever said she was more powerfull? Way to go chief. I said that the could be above him since Silver Surfer comics are showing him weak and strong all at once. Wonder Woman tiara is able to cut Superman. She’s all about weapons.
@Emerald Magus
No, Magus, you are wrong!
And just for me to make shut your trap
Full OF THOR is more powerful than Modern Superman, HAPPY?
There are two things that I can see here, one is being a fanboy, which I’m clearly showing I’m not, neither is Shadow, Because We accept and know There are more powerful beings than Superman.
and another one is to being a Superman hater, which, I can sadly say, there is plenty of them on the web, like yourself.
I accept that OF Thor is more powerful than Superman. So what? Big deal.
I wouln’t go as far as saying that WW is more powerful than SS, But clearly Shadow is speaking of what He has seen on the recent comic books, in which Wonder woman is portrayed as a REALLY POWERFUL Warrior Princess (by McDuffie).
But what I can tell you, is that WW is a better figther than Thor. Is that being bias? Stating the obvious? She is a better fighter, Thor is more powerful, but WW is a better fighter.
And just to make things clear.
NO I DON’T THINK THAT ANY DC CHARACTER WILL DEFEAT ANY MARVEL CHARACTER.
SS will defeat GL
Captain America can defeat Batman
Hulk can defeat Solomon Grundy
Magneto can defeat Polaris
The X-men will mop the floor with the Teen Titans
Spiderman defeats Booster Gold
Should I keep going? or is it clear now?
First off, Capatain America will not defeat The Batman. Say what you will about “Super Soldier Serum” or whatever it simply will not happen. The reason why? The Batman is PSYCHOTIC. The Batman is the deadliest fighter in comicdom because of his mind. Batman’s training is so intense he can adapt to any fighter’s style and counter that style without thinking. I don’t recall ever reading about Captain America travelling the world learning the Martial Arts, or did I miss something. Batman will DO ANYTHING TO WIN, plain and simple.
Silver Surfer vs Superman: The Surfer’s Power Cosmic will drive out the yellow sun radiation from Superman’s body and infuse it with the red sun radiation to the point of Superman’s helplessness and the fight’s over. Good thing Surfer doesn’t like to kill. The Surfer’s been through the hearts of burning suns so Superman’s heat vision isn’t going to be a factor. As strong as Superman is, he isn’t strong enough to crack the Surfer’s “skin”, Galactus does good work…. And as for “combat speed”, wasn’t the Surfer fast enough to run rings around meteor showers, at close range?
The Green Lantern wields the most powerful weapon? Are you kidding? I’d take Mjolnir any day! Am I the only one who remembers the inscription on the hammer in the first place? “….shall possess the POWER of Thor.” The power of Thor does include the physical ability to wield Mjolnir, GL’s ring doesn’t make you stronger. The pressure of an F5 tornado or an intense ice storm will weaken even the strongest of wills and once that happens….
And for all you misled individuals who believe “Hulk Is The Strongest One There Is!” Look through your Marvel Team Up archives and find issue No. 53. While fighting the WoodGod, the Hulk lifts a truck which comes into contact with a live wire and the electricity knocks the Hulk out. So how does the Hulk withstand a bolt of lightning from Thor’s hammer? Were the Human Torch to focus his Nova blast into the Hulk’s eyes, would that fry his brain? What if the Iceman froze the Hulk’s blood in his veins? By the time the Hulk works up the rage to match Superman’s strength level, he’d suffer an anyourism,
The Sentry possesses the power of a billion suns?
I don’t know about Captain America beating Batman…
I guess on paper he should, but I feel Batman would find a way to take him down.
Here is a direct quote:
SHADOWHUNTER: Pre-Crisis Superman can take out the whole list at the same time with one hand. Surfer is going down. By the way, I would even be tempted to put Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman above him.
Now if Shadowhunter says WW should be ABOVE HIM, that means he thinks she is more powerful than him, considering this is the top 10 most powerful superheroes list.
Also, explain to me how PC Superman beats all ten of these heroes at once. Are you absolutely insane? Have you ever read a PC Superman comic, or do you just think he’s GOD because every other superman fanboy tells you he is?
SHADOWHUNTER: Emerald : Did I ever said she was more powerfull? Way to go chief.
Yes, you did. Try to keep track of your statements.
Hummmmm.
PC Superman was able to move all the planets on a galaxy casually, he moved suns with his breath, he destroyed a Solar systems with a sneze, He traveled to the end of the universe and was about to destroy reality because of it, he retcon realitites just by thinking it and He pulled powers out of his ass whenever the plot dictated, yes PC Superman will defeat all of this heroes at the same time on their modern versions, not on their silver age versions (at the same time), but all of the modern version.
and the statement I made about Cap vs Bats let me rephrase that I think Cap COULD defeat Batman, the same goes the other way arround.
The same way I think SS could defeat Superman, the same way goes the other arround
and Thor could defeat Superman, the same goes the other way arround.
Some people on the other hand, since they know squat about Superman or because they hate Superman they just say SS EASILY WINS
@Donaldo Davisini
“Silver Surfer vs Superman: The Surfer’s Power Cosmic will drive out the yellow sun radiation from Superman’s body and infuse it with the red sun radiation to the point of Superman’s helplessness and the fight’s over”
Didn’t Ruin tried that already? it did not work
Emerald Magus : I never said that Wonder Woman was stronger and more powerfull than PC Superman. You are becoming crazy right now. I said that she could be above the Surfer, depending the weapons she got (yes, during the Immortal Chalenges, War of the Gods, etc.., she had a couple of destructive weapons). Diana once possessed the Sandals of Hermes, or talaria, which granted the wearer great speed and flight. They were passed on, first to Artemis and later to Wonder Girl. Diana also once possessed the Gauntlets of Atlas, which magnify the physical strength and stamina of the wearer. They too were passed on. Diana occasionally uses additional weaponry in formal battle, such as ceremonial golden armor complete with golden wings, war-skirt and chest-plate, and a golden helmet in the shape of an eagle’s head. She also possesses a sword (also forged by Hephaestus) that is sharp enough to cut the electrons off an atom. As a recently temporary inductee into the Star Sapphires, Wonder Woman gained access to the violet power ring of love. This ring allowed her to fly, alter her costume at will, create solid-light energy constructs and also reveal a person’s true love to them.
And nice job changing my sentences. You know I meant Silver Surfer when I said that she could be above him. Try to read carefully next time.
1. The Silver Surfer
2. Thor
3. Superman
4. Captain Marvel
5. The Sentry
6. The Martian Manhunter
7. Black Bolt
8. The Flash
9. Dr. Strange
10. Green Lantern
Didnt World War Hulk smash Thor, The Surfer and Dr Strange?
Alberto : What do you think? Is Zauriel scream stronger than Black Bolt? I was asked that question on Youtube but I just can’t tell.
Zauriel’s scream can’t compare to Blackbolts, Blackbolt destroyed half a city with just the WHISPER of one word. Imagine if blackbolt decided to scream.
BERSERKR : Zauriel scream is WAYY different than Blackbolt. It’s not the same thing. I don’t see Black Bolt taking out Asmodel with his scream.
1. Dark Phoenix
2. The Silver Surfer
3. Thor
4. Superman
5. Dr. Strange
6. Captain Marvel
7. The Sentry
8. The Flash
9. Black Bolt
10. Green Lantern
What the hell Batman should be up at #1 or #2. He is an extremely powerful superhero and he doesn’t even have superpowers.
Superman doesn’t make my list, for the same reason many others here have said. He CANNOT breath in space. Its a fact. I have at least 12 examples of him saying he can HOLD HIS BREATH for a couple of weeks. He has several weaknesses that characters like SS, GL, and Thor can easily exploit. (make K radiation, or red solar radiation, or even magic in Thor’s case). Now SS is clearly #1, and is probably TOO POWERFUL for this list.
1. Silver Surfer
2. The Green Lantern
3. Captain Atom
4. Thor / Beta Ray Bill
5. Captain Marvel
6. The Sentry
7. Martian Manhunter
8. Wonder Woman
9. Dr. Strange / Dr. Fate
10. Orion / Hulk (Tie)
Hey EJ hate to break it to you but Dark Phoenix is “too” powerful to make the list. They ruled out all “overly powerful” heroes like Odin and whatnot. Which leads me to another point. Since OF THOR now has Odin’s power, shouldnt he be considered too powerful for this list too?…
Oh and Will, to leave superman off the list completely is ridiculous. I’m not a huge fan of the last son of krypton either, but you cant deny he’s hellas powerful
Spurio that why Hulk should be on this list. He has capable beating everyone on this list.
I agree with Emerald Magus about the SS beating Superman. The person I think shouldn’t be on this list is Sentry because marvel still in the stages of playing with his power level. I have feeling he may end up too powerful this list.
@ShadowHunter
I think BB’s scream will be more powerful than Zauriel’s. but they are different.
Zauriel’s is Magic based
BB’s is different
Alberto/Shadowhunter both are DC/Superman fans boys. Like Emerald Magus said DC don’t rule over all Marvel heroes. Shadowmage your comment about SS being weak & strong is very conflicting because all heroes have stories line which make them weak just to fit a situation. Like Emerald Magus said you can find same thing if you look at Superman too.
Sorry mention Shadowhunter- Shadowhunter your comment about SS being weak & strong is very conflicting because all heroes have stories line which make them weak just to fit a situation.